Sunday, December 4, 2011

It's Time!Yes it's time for "GOP no longer has a lock on the evangelicals" story #2012 #tcot #tlot

RRD:People who have been following politics for awhile know that this election Evangelicals may no longer vote Republican this time.Social Issues which have long dominated the concerns of Evangelicals have taken a back seat to other issues like Darfur and Social Justice.Abortion and Gay Marriage,while important,are no longer....Wait,did I say Darfur?Haven't the atrocities in Darfur subsided?Oh!Silly me.I'm reading a story from 2002,or is it '04,or '06,or '08,or 2010?There have been so many of these stories over the years that it is difficult to keep them all straight in my head.


I am reminded of the famous maxim concerning artificial intelligence(or alternately flawless speech or handwriting recognition):"AI is FIVE YEARS AWAY!And always has been."

Oh,well,the hope enndures...and the dream shall never die!

Democrats see opening to attract religious voters in 2012 election - TheHill.com


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/197025-democrats-see-opening-among-relig...

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Saturday, December 3, 2011

Islamists claim Egypt & Tunisia.

Pictures of Egypt then and Now.
Pictures showing anti-semitic imagery in Egypt.


RRD:I feared that Islamists would win.
I warned that Islamists would win.
I hoped I was wrong.
It seems I wasn't.
There is "no joy in this".
No gloating.Just fear,horror,and disgust.
Egyptians and Tunisians are human beings.They can,in fact,live in a free society,just like the French and the Germans.They can also choose to live in a dictatorship,just like the French and the Germans.
The issue is what philosophy they choose(fn1).
Most,based on the poll below choose Political Islam(the Pew Poll showed that most Egyptians embrace Sharia).
Not all did.
Some,such as some Sufis in Egypt tried to fight the Islamists(fn2).
So did secular liberals like Naguib Sawiris(fn3).

But the majority chose to support them.


In a later post I will catalog the statements of those who dismissed warnings against conflating elections with freedom.


Egyptian Islamists put sharia law on agenda after election gains | World news | The Guardian


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/02/egyptian-election-islamists-shari...


Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah | Pew Global Attitudes Project (mobile)

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas...


Footnotes


fn1

One of the arguments made by Neo-Conservatives like Bush and Bill Kristol is that those who warn that Islamists will win are essentially racists who believe "that some people are not fit for freedom".The correct answer is that all people possess free will & can choose slavery or freedom.

fn2


Egyptian Sufis Reject Rise of Islamists | Middle East | English


http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Egyptian-Sufis-Reject-Rise-of...


fn3
Image of Bearded Mickey Mouse Enrages Egyptian Islamists (Minnie Too!) | TheBlaze.com

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/egypt-christian-mogul-enrages-islamists-with-...

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Howard Gutman U.S. ambassador to #Belgium claims Muslim anti-semitism is understandable.

RRD:At this point I suppose I could argue that anti-semitism is racism & as such is never justifiable,"understandable",or sane.
I won't.
I won't because Gutman knows this,as do all his anti-semitic brethren through history,& arguing would imply that I thought there was something for honest people to debate.


...."Growing global anti-Semitism is linked to Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians, the American ambassador to Belgium told stunned Jewish conference attendants in Brussels earlier this week. Speaking Wednesday at a Jewish conference on anti-Semitism organized by the European Jewish Union (EJU,) Howard Gutman told participants he was apologizing in advance if his words are not to their liking. He then proceeded to make controversial statements about his views on Muslim anti-Semitism, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday. A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, Gutman said. He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism. The American envoy, a lawyer by training, is Jewish and played a major role in fundraising for the Democratic Party. He was appointed to the post by
President Barack Obama."....


....."the next speaker offered a scathing rebuttal to the envoy’s remarks. “The modern Anti-Semite formally condemns Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust and expresses upmost sympathy with the Jewish people. He simply has created a new species, the “Anti-Zionist” or –even more sophisticated –the so -called ‘Israel critic,’” Germany attorney Nathan Gelbart said. “The ‘Israel critic’ will never state ‘Jews go home’ but is questioning the legality of the incorporation of the State of Israel and therefore the right for the Jewish people to settle in their homeland. He will not say the Jews are the evil of the world but claim that the State of Israel is a major cause for instability and war in the region,” he said. “There is no other country, no other people on this planet the ‘Israel critic’ would dedicate so much time and devotion as to the case of Israel.” “For no other country he would criticize or ask to boycott its goods or academics. And this
for one simple reason: Because Israel is the state of the Jewish people, not more and not less,” Gelbart said."...

RRD:The only problem I have with Gelbart's statement is that it is touchingly naive.There are many "Israel critics" who would say many of these things.(And to be precise there are some anti-Israel fanatics who hate the U.S. & many other governments because they are Marxists or Anarchists,so not all unjust critics of Israel are necessarily anti-semitic,but I presume he is referring to the Mearsheimer-Walt-Atzmon axis.)


'Jew-hate stems from conflict' - Israel News, Ynetnews

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4156355,00.html

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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Support for Pastor Youcef Grows as Iran Threatens Churches | The Moral Liberal #iranelections #freeiran

3 Christian Pastors in Iran to Be Imprisoned? Ministry Warns of Increased Persecution, Christian News #iranelections #freeiran

Has the indefinite detention bill been fixed?Feinstein says Yes,ACLU says No. #tcot #tlot #p2

UPDATE:A compromise has been reached supposedly fixing the bill by saying that the law is unchanged regarding U.S. citizens.The ACLU disputes this.I will try to discover the truth by Saturday.Right now I need to post some more links & attend to some personal matters.


Senate Kills Effort To Ban Indefinite Military Detentions Of U.S. Citizens

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blackberry/p.html?id=1124534


"As part of the detention compromise, Feinstein extracted a promise from Senate leaders that they would insist on the Senate's new language remaining in the final product. It could change, however. The American Civil Liberties Union found the compromise troubling, and said the president should still veto the bill because even with the no-change language, the measure sets in stone the military's ability to operate inside the U.S. borders. "The bill is an historic threat to American citizens and others because it expands and makes permanent the authority of the president to order the military to imprison without charge or trial American citizens," said ACLU senior legislative counsel Christopher Anders in a statement. "The final amendment to preserve current detention restrictions could turn out to be meaningless and Sens. [Carl] Levin [Micigan Democrat] and Graham made clear that they believe this power to use the military against American citizens will not be affected by the new
language," Anders said. "

Senate passes Defense spending bill - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/budget-approriations/196773-senate-passe...

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Who voted for cloture on the indefinite detention provision s1867? #humanrights #tcot #tlot #p2

GovTrack: Cloture vote on S. 1867


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2011-212&utm_source=@SenateFloor


37 Republicans & 49 Democrats & 2 Independents voted for it.

RRD:When evaluating a piece of legislation there are certain questions that must be answered before supporting it.

*Is this something the Government has the legal authority to do.

*Is this directed against a actual problem.


*Does this bill present any rationally forseeable consequences that outweigh the benefits of the legislation.

*If the bill's end is legitimate,can the same result be achieved with less risk to the liberties of a individual,through another piece of legislation.


So far as I can tell none of these questions were adequately answered before passing this bill.
So far as I can tell the U.S. Senate just passed a bill that effectively guts all of our liberties by giving the current president (& future presidents) the power to lock up any & all of us at his discretion.
No court review.Even if the courts are functioning.Not even a FISA-type court,(which would at least be independent of the President).No oversight.Just "shut up",as Lindsey Graham put it.Since you've been accused of being a terrorist.Anyone remember Richard Jewell?Wen Ho Lee?Jewell was a hero,his reward was to be crucified by the media.
I think I will vomit.To think I supported some of these creatures.
Destroying the greatest nation on earth is a bi-partisan exercise.
Our fate now rests in the hands of The US House,& possibly Obama.
God save us all from our protectors.


Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely, White House Threatens Veto


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blackberry/p.html?id=1119473


Wen Ho Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee


Richard Jewell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

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